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How to Do the12 Steps AA: Do the 1st one and you are doing them

Posted by admin on December 15, 2015
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The 12 Steps and A A are said to go together. Although AA is a fellowship not a ‘program‘ and does not rely on working steps to have success at getting people sober. It is said by spiritualists at AA meetings that AA is a program. It is not.

Many say they’re doing 12 steps AA and they refer to AA as a program.  The Preamble  states that AA is a fellowship of men and women, not a program of men and women. It couldn’t get much clearer then that. The first step is the only one that mentions alcohol and so is the only one that needs to be done on a daily basis to help to achieve sobriety. The OSM’s, older sober members, said that if you are doing that one then you are doing The Twelve Steps.

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The first step: We admitted we were powerless over alcohol and that our lives have become unmanageable.

This step is in two parts, admitting we are powerless, we do that when we walk through the doors. If alcohol was doing for us what we thought it was doing then AA would be the last place to end up. For alcoholics, alcohol is a dangerous delusive drug, it makes them see things how they want to see it and not how it really is. People who are allergic to alcohol (primary alcoholics) are people who are chasing an effect that they never get.

If they did they would know when to stop and be happy with the desired effect and so to not to continue drinking which is what happens. They chase an effect into blackout by keeping on drinking and whatever that effect may be. They still don’t know, even when arriving at an AA meeting and they are lucky to find out after that as well. That’s simply due to the fact that there’s very little sobriety in AA these days. Sad but true.

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What Is Sobriety?

Posted by admin on October 15, 2015
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AA has changed, and not for the better. AA has been hijacked and in more ways then one. Alcoholics Anonymous used to be unique. It was a fellowship where people could go to stop drinking alcohol and be happy about it. It was a place where they had people to help them and to look out for them. Alcoholics once had a chance at getting sober. VLUU L100, M100 / Samsung L100, M100

Not anymore though. In the past few years AA has been raped, pillaged, pulled apart, and commercialized. What’s worse is that no one has noticed. Here’s my comments and questions on last nights meeting:

  • The secretary changed the theme of the meeting from ID to Speakers Meeting and presented a guest speaker who has no sobriety.
  • And he has no sobriety  himself.
  • We heard a woman tell her story with 30 men in attendance and only one other women from a Detox Centre.
  • The speaker was not asked any questions after her talk.
  • Does she have anything to offer, if so what is it?
  • Some ID meetings like this one are becoming replaced with ‘topics’ meetings and are unrelated to problems associated with alcoholism. How then can anyone get sober?
  • The secretary has no sobriety and this meeting has no older sober members (OSM) to guide members on what is right and what is the wrong thing to be doing.
  • Members were not asked to speak but spoke at random.
  • All members in attendance who spoke after the guest speaker also had no sobriety.
  • Sobriety was not offered at this meeting and therefor it had no purpose.
  • This meeting should be closed.

AA is no longer focused on sobriety and this was quite obvious at the meeting last night. To make it worse this meeting is not listed as anything other then an AA ID meeting. AA is all about identification (ID) and nothing else. That is of people getting up and telling their story of What it was like, What happened and What it is like now.

What was wrong at last nights meeting:

So now we have a situation of unsuspecting visitors turning up to a meeting and are confronted with a situation they did not expect to be happening. That is not Alcoholics Anonymous, far from it. This situation is a direct opposite to what AA used to be like. Alcoholics who attended knew what to expect which was one reason why it worked so well. They had stability instead of the instability they had in life when they were drinking. The alcoholics would go to AA meeting expecting to find sobriety and why else would you go? Instead now we have a situation where people go to AA meetings for all sorts of reasons other then sobriety. The main reason being for sex. yes we have sexual predators, looking for sick women, and men.

Guest speaker had no sobriety so what value would be in asking her to be a guest speaker at an AA meeting? Answer: None.
1. The meeting changed to a speakers meeting without it being listed as such in the online AA meetings list. a guest speaker who had nothing to offer in the way of sobriety. Why? Because she was not sober and had no idea of the concept. She simply told her story which took up half an hour of an hour meeting. She didn’t speak for 1/2 an hour but between her and the chairperson reading from a book a chapter that used to be called, “How It Works’ That term isn’t used anymore in their reading. How it works has been hijacked as a term for just about everyone and everything online, as an introduction to their particular niche or topic.

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What Is AA

Posted by admin on July 17, 2015
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AA is for someone who has a drinking problem. By attending AA meetings it’s like a visit to the Doctor to change thinking patterns of the mind. When they need “a check-up from the neck-up” as was once said in the early days in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA)

Sobriety can be achieved by attending AA meetings on a regular basis. Alcoholics (someone allergic to alcohol) comes to get sober and to learn what to do next once they stop drinking. Stopping drinking is only a start to the journey of sobriety. To achieve sobriety it takes time. Members need time to grasp a new way of thinking and living and looking at the world.

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This doesn’t mean making AA a home. there’s very little sobriety in meetings these days. New members hoping to get sobriety information instead are told to pray and work steps. This problem is due to Doctors and Detox Centres and many institutions who are on the band wagon of making money from people wanting sobriety.

Also there’s no one to look after them. Instead what is happening now in AA is that people with no sobriety are opening up meetings and making AA their home. Sometimes they find a job because they’re not drinking now but this is the only thing that changes in their lives. Usually they have simply swapped drinking for working. They sit in meetings reading the big book and working steps and this action keeps the true alcoholic who visits their meeting, in the past. This is a same results as when drinking.

AA Prison Visits

Many will go on a roster to visit inmates in prison possibly under a delusion they can help someone. This is of course nonsense. God only knows what inmates are subjected to during such visits. They could only be reading the Big Book to them and telling them to work steps. This practice is of no value to people in prison or outside of prison.

AA members then have the problem of coping with people who come to meetings from prison and who have not been given correct information. They don’t even have basic information from outside visits on what to do when they do arrive at AA meetings.

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Mocktails On The Rocks, Non-Alcoholic Cocktails

Posted by admin on November 24, 2014
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Lentil on the Rocks is a new ‘bar’ selling non-alcoholic drinks. It may be a good idea for some but overall the concept is missing the point if the idea is to be getting away from a drinking mentality. Instead it’s similar by both being based on how people socialize in an alcohol environment. Problem is that the people who use alcohol regularly as a social lubricant will not benefit by being in a similar pretend to nonalcoholcocktailsbe drinking alcohol, environment like this.

Usually people who drink alcohol regularly do so for the effect. They are the heavy drinkers. Facts are that heavy drinkers incorporate a larger percentage of regular alcohol users.

Doesn’t everyone drink alcohol for the effect? I know primary alcoholics do and they are the ones who will end up attending AA meetings. If they live long enough to get there, that is.

AA members often ask, why drink alcohol if not for the effect?

Allergy To Alcohol

The taste of alcohol is woeful. That is unless it’s Baileys or Tia, or something sweet – or an expensive scotch may have a pleasing taste. So does chocolate and it’s safe from a devastating mood changing effect that results when people have ab allergy to alcohol and don’t know until it’s too late.

Maybe I have missed the point here. Mocktails could be a good idea for socializing and maybe the idea will take off. I hope it does. It’s certainly better then drinking alcohol. We would like nothing better than to see kids not wiping themselves out while under the delusion that they are having a good time.

If I’m missed something here then please let me know. Until then I will keep asking, what is the point in pretending to be drinking alcohol when you are not?

We are also strongly advising AA members to stay away from the mocktail environment. It may seem harmless on the surface but unfortunately it’s not for you.  Stick with the coffee shops for a safe social environment and drink tea, not coffee, green tea is good. Alcoholics should not drink coffee, especially in early sobriety. It’s a proven fact.

Drinking alcohol can be a lifestyle choice for people who are not allergic to it and similarly the idea of not drinking alcohol is also a lifestyle choice. Don’t mix the two if wanting to achieve sobriety. Remember there’s no need to be in a drinking alcohol environment if not drinking alcohol. It could only serve to whet an appetite for alcohol.

For example, someone who is a heavy drinker and is wanting to give up alcohol due to problems associated with alcohol will not survive long in a mocktail environment. Simply because there’s no room for a change of thinking away from the drinking mentality.

Staying Sober

Instead it’s a deadly environment and especially for someone who may be attending AA or someone who is thinking about attending AA to receive help with a drinking problem. Staying sober is not possible while socializing at cocktail or mocktail bars. Simply because the thinking is not changing to a sober way of thinking. It’s not changing the mentality to a non-drinking mentality. Attending AA meetings will serve this purpose.

I hope mocktails are healthy drinks and that they don’t contain large amounts of sugar.  I hope also that they are not dressed up to look like an alcoholic drink but I strongly suspect that they are. Has anyone done the research on this? I hope not. Also a point is that by not putting them in cocktail glasses could help to make it a unique idea. Serving mocktails in jam jars or water glasses is a better idea then serving them in cocktail glasses.

A sober way to think is to instead have a nice green tea in a coffee shop rather then a mocktail in a place that resembles a pub environment.

Such a suggestion will possibly infuriate some readers and cause their blood to boil. If so they are not sober and they do not understand where I am coming from on this stand. Possibly also they do not know how to avoid problems that do come with not being able to stay sober for any length of time.

I hope most readers do understand this and will be able to leave a positive comment.

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How to Survive the AA Meetings Long Enough to Achieve Sobriety

Posted by admin on August 17, 2014
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We attended an AA meeting yesterday in the Western Suburbs and it was a doozy – as far as a sobriety rating goes it’s at the bottom of the barrel. The chairperson claiming 30 years sobriety and still has no idea how to chair a meeting properly. She called people with no sobriety and, not alcoholics, Instead she left sober people sitting there and she didn’t recognise any difference.aa_meeting

She called a sexual predator to speak and he’s not an alcoholic. He went on to brag from the floor that he was a thief and said he steals because, we are alcoholics. Thieving in sobriety is not sobriety and alcoholics are not thieves or criminals.

Before becoming sober AA members can not consciously distinguish the different between the types of people who regularly frequent AA meetings. Non alcoholics go to AA meetings for all sorts of reasons. They tell short-termers to believe that everyone is the same who attends the meetings but everyone is not the same. Not at all.

Many people frequent AA meetings for all sorts of reasons and unfortunately sobriety is not one of them. Alcoholics go for only one reason, and that’s sobriety. This difference causes a lot of damage to the people who go hoping to find answers to a genuine alcohol problem.

Chairing An AA Meeting

A chairperson can make a mistake by calling a non alcoholic however the damage can be minimized if they realizes the mistake and if they know who they are calling beforehand. This way a chairperson can minimize mistakes on who they are calling to speak.

Things were so different to the old days when new AA members had older sober members (OSM) to keep the nutters in check. They would point out the wrongs a non alcoholic spruik from the floor of AA meetings. The chairperson at yesterdays meeting instead didn’t recognise that someone with sobriety was offering good advice and instead she apologied to a (one) newcomer for interruptions by the OSM

Her disturbing remark of an OSM’s point of view, was that she hopes the disruption doesn’t deter them from coming back. Unfortunately she’s not smart enough to realize that many newcomers/short-termers have not come back due to the many nutters like this one, and that she was defending.

Facts are that 99.99% of people attend AA only once and they do not come back. That’s even though there is generally no interruptions from OSM’s or anyone else who may be offering advice or talking sense.

If someone gets up to talk and it is consistant of them talking about steps and saying that, we need to do this and we need to do that – then it is the duty of an older sober member (OSM) to intervene and to tell the person speaking to either tell their own story – or to sit down and let someone who needs to tell their story That consists of what it was like. what happened, and what it is like now.

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