AA and How It Doesn’t Work

Posted by admin on July 12, 2014
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Alcoholics are trying to get sober in AA by working steps and it doesn’t work. The success rate is nil but they keep telling a new lot that come in the same thing that sent the last lot to their grave. They come to AA and listen to the spiritualists by praying and working steps for sobriety. Instead of this helping them it puts the alcoholics head in the past. That’s where it is when they are drinking and so it’s not long before they are drinking again and not going to AA.

This happens to them because they start working steps and praying for sobriety:drunk_women

They become stuck in the past and this knocks their confidence in what they are doing in their day to day life in the here and now. Alkies will identify with that awful perturbing situation of being happy and positive one minute and negative and hating life the next. This is because they have shunted from a positive, head in today state, to a negative past thinking pattern – that only another sober alkie can get them out of. Sober alcoholics in AA are the only ones who will understand what has happened to them and they also recognise when this is happening to them, at the time.

It is a bit like when kids thinks that if they keep crying they will get something that they want. This works when you are a helpless baby but as you grow you learn different strategies of behaving and thinking that work better for getting what we want. We develop better strategies for different situations we are in, as we grow up.

In a similar scenario, an alkie is stuck with the thinking and strategies he learned while drinking. That is because he had surrounded himself with others like himself, and when he gets off the alcohol that same way of thinking is all he knows. Until he gets sober.

Until then he only has the old thinking to rely on and it is completely inappropriate for sober living. He is like Rip Van Winkle waking up from a long sleep in which he is in a world that has changed and he is completely out of step.

The alkie early on in sobriety only has the drinking strategies as a way of thinking and it takes time for him to get sober. This is done by living in the day, and doing it a day at a time. He needs time to learn to deal with life in a sober manner and to deal with it at the time life is happening.

He needs to be with sober people to get the help he needs to show him how to lay down the new thinking patterns and how the new strategies work so that they are then able to use the new strategies when future situations arises. They then replace the old way of thinking with a new sober way of thinking and behaving.

This learning can not be achieved by working steps and praying for sobriety. This will only send them nuts and back to drinking. This always happens after they have been flogging themselves to death with working steps and praying like a praying mantis. They then go back to drink again. Also very few get a second chance at coming back to AA and they die.

While getting sober in AA and while they are still not sober they will only have the old strategies of the past as a way of thinking. They need time to learn that all they have to do is ask sober people. Let them do their thinking for them in the beginning.

Problem is however that now very few sober people are around in AA these days! Working steps for sobriety has caused a huge gap in sobriety in AA because people are not staying sober. The vacuum has been filled with people coming to AA who are not alcoholics and do not understand what it takes to get one sober.

Alcoholics do not have a base as in having grown up and matured when they first arrive in AA. They only have the mad ideas, in most cases of a teenager who has been pickled and learned everything they know from black and white movies and from the other drunks in the pub.

So, they do not have the maturity to understand their past. They have no ability to pick a goodie from a baddie. Its a bit like if someone smiles at them they presume they are nice people and if they grimace they are bad.

They need time to get sober. This means to get sane and to mature. To grow up and this can only happen by walking away from what kept them drunk both physically and mentally and they need to learn to live in the day, by dealing with life on a daily basis.

They need the help of someone who has got out of the hole themselves. Someone who can show them how to do the same. Thereby laying down new foundation of information in their memories. New foundations that will work for them rather than them using the old information that kept them drunk and it did not work for them anyway.

Religion and God are a personal thing. It has a different perception for everybody and everyone has their own personal understanding and belief in what God is.  It stands to reason therefor that if everybody is talking about a different perception then this type of thinking has no place in AA for alcoholics wanting to get sober – how can it?

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Why It’s Hard to Get Sober

Posted by admin on December 28, 2012
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There are reasons why very few people are getting sober with AA these days. Mainly these reasons are because members are straying away from the original teachings of the Oxford Group of AA and like many other groups it has been infiltrated by people with their own agenda. Simply put they are not there for sobriety.Stevie_Ray_Vaughan

Another reason why few are getting sober is that counselors and detox centres are making money from alcoholics who want to get sober.

AA is free so is not popular with those wanting to make money from alkies wanting to get sober. Problem is the money makers do not teach the concept of being sober to alkies. They need to know that for them, when they are not drunk, they are not sober either.

Alkies are still mentally unstable for a long time after they stop drinking. During the time of getting sober they are liable to believe the nutters in AA who tell them they have to pray and work steps to achieve sobriety.

They then wrongly believe that it’s not important to tell your story. They are told to believe that what someone says from the floor is not relevant unless it’s found in the Big Book. Problem with this is the new comer with a horrific drinking story can be looked upon as being in the wrong place. ‘The step workers in AA will tell them to rely on, How Bill Sees It, literature as guidance. To what who knows?  The step-workers give the wrong information to the alkie wanting to get sober rather than encouraging them to tell their own story. Guidelines to that is to tell, what it was like, what happened, and what it is like now. That’s all that matters.

The rest is hogwash. The step workers will convince new comers to believe stories told in Detox centres as opposed to identify with sober members in AA and with a sober alcoholic’s story.

It’s unfortunate for alkies wanting to get sober because they don’t have a chance if they follow the step-workers unsuccessful path. But who cares? A new lot will come along to take their place. They will probably have a laugh at the sober member’s stories – like the last lot did. Problem is though they too, like the last lot, will never stay around long enough to prove their point. That is that what sober people in AA are doing is wrong and what they are doing is right.

They laugh and snicker at primary alkies stories in AA, and especially if they say they are not praying and working steps for sobriety. They laugh all the way to the graveyard like the last lot. They continue to make the same mistakes with a new lot of people that led the last lot to the bone-yard.

Step-workers are madly intense about what they believe and you have to ask, well what is backing up their story. Investigation shows they have nothing but blind faith, in something that has proven time and again that it doesn’t work.

Usually someone who is sure about a cause can show reason for thinking that way. Step-workers can not show a reason for telling people to pray and work steps for sobriety.

The sober alkie’s in AA have seen with their own eyes what spiritualism and working steps does to alkies who are wanting to get sober. It sends them nuts. The result is that new comer will go mad – they then leave AA and they die. It happens virtually in front of your eyes. Sober members can talk with authority on this because they see it so often.

They know that keeping it simple and doing the basics is what works. They know that learning from first hand experience is the way to get sober. New comers need to watch others in AA who are sober – and who are living a problem free normal life. There are sober people in AA living a life without alcohol and they are happy about it. They achieve this by keeping it simple. They run away from all the other nonsense in AA – that is only designed to keep counselors in a job.


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