In Memory of AA Members Who Don’t Make it

Posted by knowledge is power on March 22, 2012
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To be making a recording of anyone at an AA  meeting is not the right thing to do. Many people do not know that what they do at meetings is wrong. Many new members are in a confused state of mind, which is evident in some recordings on YouTube. They do not realise they are not in the company of people who can not help them to get sober.

There are people wanting to control alcoholic in AA and this is a problem. Sometimes I hope permission is given to have someone’s story posted up on YouTube. A chairperson at a meeting introduces sponsors on tape who are not much more sober then their sponsee. Also many times they will identify as a drug addict rather than an alcoholic. They sometimes comment that a sponsee “has helped a lot of people”

How can they possibly help people until they are properly sober themselves. The people around them have no idea what they are doing if they allow someone to sponsor people while they are still in short term sobriety themselves.

The facts are that if someone was trying to help someone else in short term sobriety then they would be jeopardizing their own sobriety. The sober OSM’s will tell you that human nature is that a negative person can pull you negative before you are able to pull them positive. So this means that new members of AA are trying to help other people before being properly sober themselves then they will most definitely be the losers.

Examples are in videos on YouTube of people in AA I am disgusted that some people in AA are responsible for the poor condition that other members are in. People are in AA masquerading as alcoholics. They do not give newcomers any good advice on how to get sober. AA is not about finding god and most alcoholics are smart enough to know it and move on.

The spiritualists and step workers and a few others will tell them that they are in AA to be finding god. They will send an alkie completely nuts if he tries to do what they say and try to be finding god. the alkie is doomed if he tries.

It happens many times in AA meetings where people are put on the wrong track. Worse still sponsors do not change what they are doing for the next person so that they maybe  getting a different result.

They do not learn from mistakes made. New people come along to AA meetings thinking the people there know what they are doing. They do not, and the new comer pays the price. They pay with their life. The step workers and the spiritualists will continuously put new people coming through the doors on a track that sent the last lot running from AA.

AA works because of the anonymity of its members. Their anonymity is not kept these days. Not since many older members have gone and are not being replaced with sober people. Anonymity is the foundation stone as to why AA is successful. AA was set up for the privacy of alcoholics to get sober. Nothing more, nothing less.

Do you know of someone who did not get the necessary help they needed in AA ?

 

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An Alcoholic Can Not Drink In Moderation

Posted by knowledge is power on March 13, 2012
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Any person who is allergic to alcohol can never drink in moderation!

Alcoholics are allergic to alcohol – once an alcoholic – always an alcoholic.
Alcohol alone has an effect on the alcoholic. There is no other reason, such as character defects that is spruiked by the spiritualists and the step workers at AA meetings. For the primary alcoholic this reaction is due to they having an allergic reaction to alcohol which is unlike anything experienced by normal drinkers.
The alcoholic is a type of person, a type of character.  They are people who would normally do well academically and they usually excel in the sport of their choice. They are not dumb by any means although the alcohol makes them seem that way.
I have met at least 3 people – that I remember clearly, who had been sober a long time in AA.  They started socialising with people they worked with who were, social drinkers, or they became involved with a social drinker, and for whatever reason simply stopped going to AA meetings.
Because of them associating with people who are drinking they start to think that they could now have a drink and could control their drinking, and drink like the people they are associating with. They reason that the problems they had while drinking and early on when getting sober were now all gone. The immaturity,  the lack of education, the lack of living skills, the inexperience they had with men/women, etc, etc, etc.
The pattern was the same for them all. A thought occurred that, maybe now I can drink normally, as I no longer have these problems.
The only problem is that these 3 people where real/primary alkies and guess what – the alcohol had exactly the same effect on them as before, only worse. They had the blackouts, their personality changed – they were now acting out of character, they had paranoia and mental instability after drinking. They all found it very difficult to get back off the booze again once they had started. This is because their thinking had changed due to the effects of the alcohol. Effects they had from alcohol both during and lasting effects after drinking it. Their mind also told them many reasons why they could not go back to AA.
I remember the last guy I met.  He had been sober 19 years in AA.  He now had a really top job, as he put it, working with very intelligent people whom he was no less intelligent, and the same thought occurred to him.  Maybe now I can drink in moderation.  He rationalised that he had faced and tackled all of the problems that made him drink and the problems that he had  experienced while drinking. He thought there was no reason why he couldn’t drink today. After all, he was successful, respected, intelligent and now was emotionally mature.
After drinking again he told me that the alcohol had, “Exactly the same effect as it had on him 19 years before. He had the blackout, the personality change, and acting out of character. He was back looking for more alcohol the next day and he needed it to be able to function. Before he knew it he was drinking in the same way as before only worse. He realised he was drinking more alcohol than he had before going to AA the first time.
This is another example that alcoholics are allergic to alcohol.  They cannot turn back the clock where alcohol is concerned.  They are as the older sober members (OSM) of AA say.  That they are bodily and mentally different to the normal drinker, where alcohol is concerned. Alcohol does not effect people in the same way as it does someone who is allergic to alcohol.

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Why is Alcoholism Fair Game?

Posted by knowledge is power on January 20, 2012
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Why is it that any scrubber, two bit journalist or public speaker, or any moron can express their disgust and spit their venom at the plight of the alcoholic and at alcoholism in general and they get away with it?

Why is the alcoholic fair game?

I have never seen such hatred expressed on any other person or institution like it is on the alcoholic.

If they were to criticize drug addicts for leaving filthy needles around, or homosexuals for spreading AIDS , religion for horrific persecution, or if they were to challenge politicians for shocking lies, and the list goes on. If they were to target any of these people the way they do alcoholics they would receive a backlash to no end.

The do-gooders would be up in arms. The men in black suits would be at work. Not so though when it comes to alcoholism. Anyone can take as many pot-shots as they like towards the alcoholic without fear of contradiction or reprisal.

If the same journalists and the like dared to print the trash they do, and including to spread their crappy cheap jokes about any person other than the alcoholic, they would be criticized and be rejected by society.

If they made derogatory remarks about a race or creed they could and most likely would be faced with charges of defamation, they’d be called racist or worse reprisals would be a sure result.

Not though when it comes to the character assassination of the alcoholic. He or she is considered fair game and is considered to be open slather to abhorrence. Any nit can claim a free reign to express disgust towards alcoholism including a recent statement that the alcoholic does not deserve to live.

This type of cretin never produces any facts to substantiate hateful vendettas. Apparently they don’t have to. No one questions their authenticity or motives.

Motives which are purely to gain an emotional reaction from readers or in public speaking, from the audience. You’ve probably heard the saying, “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with bulldust” (cleaned up a little) certainly applies to many people that comment on the subject of alcoholism.

Knowing the falsities involved I make this statement. The reason they don’t need to justify outrageous claims and untruths is because, the person, namely the alcoholic, that they vilify, does in fact not exist?

They get a desired reaction by appealing to the readers emotions and by playing on reader’s ignorance about alcoholism. They get away with abhorrence towards the alcoholic because the reader does not know, what it is that constitutes an alcoholic and don’t know what the difference is between a derelict in the park and an alcoholic.

This trickery is how journalists get away with printing utter rubbish about alcoholism. They do it without upsetting sponsors, the alcohol advertisers. The results achieved is to be blaming the victim (the alcoholic) for his own plight and therefor is not blaming the alcohol for the problems. Journalists have painted untrue pictures of what it is that constitutes an alcoholic. But they are not artists by a long shot… except maybe BS artists.

Due to this alcoholics are wrongly depicted in many ways. He is many times portrayed as the derelict in the park. Or as the park bench drunk. This is simply not true. Hopefully with a little help from this blog hopefully the lies will soon be realised by many unsuspecting readers. I am now exposing some of them for what they are. Right here, and right now – people who tell such lies are fraudsters.

The problems they create however by the lies is that the true victim still suffers. The person who is allergic to alcoholic. He is in fact the true alcoholic and is the one who is dead by around 30 years of age. That is if he does not stop drinking. Death is a definite results if he does not stay sober. His chances of achieving this desired result are slim. The odds are stacked highly against him. This is mainly due to misinformation told on the true facts about alcoholism are not revealed. If the true facts were revealed possibly the disaster of alcoholism could be avoided. Possibly not to the liking of alcohol advertisers.

The true facts are that the alcoholic does not get support from anywhere, and lately not even from AA. AA has changed and the change is not for the better. Anyone wanting to get sober has to fight for survival in AA meetings as well. It can be that he is seen as the perpetrator there also and not as the victim of alcohol.  He is instead the victim of a dangerous, delusive drug called alcohol. He is also the victim of people who are looking for customers and who are in AA masquerading as alcoholics.

The alcohol advertisers have spent their billion$ wisely, from their own perspective that is. Unfortunately so many young intelligent beautiful people are dying each year as a direct result of alcohol. Facts are that these kids (some of them) do not live long enough to even recognize or realize that they are allergic to alcohol and that therefore they are alcoholic, and that it happened to them from the very first drink of alcohol.

The two-bit journalists and the would-be’s-if-they-could-be’s are in fact one of the a main reasons why the young people of today do not live long enough to get sober. They do not get the correct information needed to be able to make an informed decision. They need to be able to make an informed decision as to whether or not to drink alcohol in the first place.

As far as I am aware there are no negative results of statistics taken on Schoolies Week. There are many negative results as a result of this horror celebration. If there were statistics taken then possibly many of the devastating results would be revealed. Including how many kids actually die during this period or shortly afterwards. No statistics taken on how many of these kids forget about the plans they had for the future once they started to drink alcohol.  They have plans for further education and for a career and it goes after schoolies. The plans they had for a successful life has gone out the window and is replaced by the thinking of a drunk with problems.

One important question that needs to be answered is: How many of these kids are actually able to stop drinking and get back to a normal life once Schoolies Week is over?

A large percentage can not stop drinking and some do not live long enough to make it through the doors of AA. Even if they do make it, it is said around AA meetings that only 1% of the people coming through the doors actually stay around for any length of time.

The percentage spruiked is also grossly exaggerated. Fact is that if even 1% were to stay around, and if what they were being told was true, then the walls of AA would be bulging with happy sober people. Sadly they are not.

Instead there is row upon row of empty chairs in AA meetings. One reason for this is that they are not getting the basic information they need from sober alcoholics to be able to stay alive. A big part of the reason for this is due to the journo’s and the like of their persecution of the alcoholic.

The true situation of what happens to someone who is allergic to alcohol is not revealed. This is for many reasons and they are the selfish and greedy reasons of the true perpetrators in and out of AA meetings.

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About Alcoholism the Alcoholic and AA

Posted by knowledge is power on January 04, 2012
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When talking about alcoholism, the alcoholic and AA it is useful to spell it out to the alcoholic so that he understands.

That is that the primary alcoholic, although he may not drink every day, he will drink again once he has started. This needs to be told in schools to kids before they start to drink alcohol.

This is fact, that once he has taken that very first drink, of his life as an adult, he is now unable to stop drinking alcohol for any length of time.

He is not able to stay stopped from starting again. That is even when he has finished one drinking session he will be in another one at the next opportunity. It is inevitable that he will keep drinking even if he swears to never touch it again.

He may stay off it for a day or two until he recovers from a hangover but he finds that after that he then has no other choice but to continue to drink alcohol.

He has now become a different person to the person he was before he picked up that very first drink. That is as an adult. Some will say that they drank here and there as children however this is a different situation and they were at that time usually not able to have access to an unlimited supply. Because of this fact and other considerations it is best to concentrate on the problem of what happens to an alcoholic once he starts drinking as an adult.

The alcohol changes him as a person and when he drinks he acts out of character and he can not guarantee his behaviour. It is only alcoholics that can begin to understand this after it is explained to them. That is what happens to someone who is allergic to alcohol and is therefore considered a primary alcoholic.

The problem is that in today’s society it is considered normal to be drinking alcohol. Because of this and other reasons he is unaware of the dangers he faces. The alcoholic does not realize what sort of situation he is getting himself into once he starts drinking.

If he is a primary alcoholic he will be unable to stop drinking once he starts. Not for any length of time and no matter how hard he tries. Not until alcohol stops working for him. This happens after the effects of alcohol has completely destabilized his life, his mind, and in many cases has ruined his health as well.

This is a time when he is in real trouble and especially if he doesn’t find AA. Only the tough alkies live long enough to get to AA. They then have to be tougher still to be able to stay around and survive AA. It’s not easy but it’s easier than drinking.

He is now in a position that he cannot imagine. He cannot drink anymore but he cannot stop either. His life can not go on in the same way any longer. Either with or without alcohol and in many cases he is faced with the only option that he can see to get out of the situation he is in. That is for him to commit suicide. RIP Bluey, Wayne, Robyn, Steve, and many many others …

A small percentage of alcoholics at this time are  lucky enough to get to AA before this happens and an even smaller percentage are lucky enough to survive the problems they will face in AA meetings.

Unfortunately they are then luckier still if they can stay around AA. It can happen if they meet someone who is like himself and someone who knows what is ahead for him to get him sober. Someone who can therefore help him navigate his way through the early days of getting sober.

It is so important for an alcoholic to know what to do next once he stops drinking. He needs everything spelled out to him in a very precise and very specific way. If not he will likely misinterpret what is happening in his reality and this will include misinterpreting what is said to him by the sober people around him who are able to help him. That is unless it is spelled out to him very clearly and without ambiguity. This is how important it is in the early days for a short-term to AA alcoholic to catch on and to understand sobriety. It is so easy for him to miss it.

You will often hear people say at AA meetings that it doesn’t matter how long someone is sober. They will say that it is not important to have sober alcoholics around to help you. This is so untrue and hearing someone say this proves undoubtedly that the person saying it is not an alcoholic. If the new comer listens to this wrong advice it will cause him to leave AA and he will die. This is happening all the time.

I hope this site can be a great resource for alkies. Tell us if it has helped you.

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About Alcoholism the Primary Alcoholic and Human Rights

Posted by knowledge is power on January 02, 2012
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The alcoholic is quite a different person to someone who is just a heavy drinker. The heavy drinker is not someone who is allergic to alcohol where the primary alcoholic is.

A primary alcoholic usually starts drinking at a young age and can’t stop once he starts drinking. A heavy drinker can stop when he wants to and that basically is the difference between the two.

Similarities are that they are unaware what is going on in the real world when they are drinking alcohol and they can have the wool pulled over their eyes on important issues. Here is a recent example.

A little bit about what happens to a primary alcoholic when they take that first drink is that the ideas they had about life changes and their ambitions in life change. The plans they had made before picking up that first drink go out the window, and are not important anymore. Instead they take up doing things that they would never have done prior to having that first drink.

They in fact have a personality change. In a sense what has happened is the thinking has flipped and they have actually gone mad. They can not see themselves as they really are and for a time they may think that their life is going ok, to an extent but in reality it is not.

During this time they rarely blame alcohol as the main problem. Instead they tend to blame themselves. The people around them also can not understand what has happened to a friend or loved one. The change happens most times very quickly.

When the personality change happens to the primary alcoholic he has no other option but to keep on drinking. The situation is to either keep drinking or they will go nuts and suicide. This is a situation that happens often because people are not aware of the effects of alcohol. Often relatives of the victim are left wondering why this person has taken their own life.

Problem is that a primary alcoholic is usually dead by the age of 30 if he or she is still drinking by that age. Unfortunately statistics will not back this up. The true cause of death is rarely put down on the death certificate that they died as a direct result of alcohol. It’s that they have had an accident, or committed suicide or were murdered or died in some other way.

In the case of suicide the wrong reason can easily be given by relatives because they do not understand the nature of alcoholism. They instead say that he or she had depression or anxiety or another related complaint. Jails are full of people convicted of crimes they have no recollection of what happened at the time. As high as 60% of offenders locked up are in there due to alcohol related problems.

Also a percentage of alcoholics locked up do not even know if they did the crime they were accused of or not. Instead they could have been set up by someone else for whatever reason. Fact is they wouldn’t know one way or another. This type of sutuation is due to alcoholic blackout – that they experience when drinking. It is only alcoholics who experience blackouts from drinking alcohol. A blackout is when they are functioning like normal but without any recollection of an event once they come out of the blackout.

The primary alkie if he is smart he will only look at alcohol in one way. That is that for him alcohol is a dangerous delusive drug and nothing else. It is one that makes him see things the way that he wants to see them and not as they really are.  For a primary alcoholic the damage happens to his thinking and it happens from that very first drink of alcohol.

The thinking has changed from what it was before he started drinking. He never see life in the same way again. The change is permanent with or without drink. On a day to day basis the thinking of a drunk stays with him until he becomes properly sober again. Getting sober also takes time.

 

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